Created by Executive Fiat – a new “Obama Fund” Dump all you “savings” into government debt

First ObamaCare and now Obama Fund

large group we wont take it any more Seniors Hit Hard by Financial Crisis

Treasury rolls out a new savings plan without a Congressional vote

Hey, kids. Uncle Sam has a new investment offer for you. Even if you have several decades of productive work ahead—and thus a long investing time horizon—the White House wants you to consider a retirement plan that will invest in nothing but U.S. government debt.

Any financial professional who advised a young investor to avoid stocks and corporate bonds—and everything else except Treasury bonds—would be sued for malpractice. But asset allocation is merely one of the problems with the new “myRA” fund rolling out from the Treasury this month.

Seniors got screwed by the housing bubble Crash. then by the phony Fed Reserve 0% fund and now the Treasury rolls out a new savings plan called ‘Obama Fund’…

Collapsing home prices, tight credit, dwindling investment income a lethal brew.

12006104-dejected-entrepreneurCollapsing real estate values and an imploding Wall Street are making life uncertain for everyone, but seniors are being hit especially hard. The economic upheaval has shattered many seniors’ retirement plans and, even worse, has cut into the income of many of those who have already retired and has sharply reduced the value of most seniors’ primary asset — their home. Lenders are cutting seniors no slack, as a growing list of complaints to ConsumerAffairs.com illustrates.

U.S. households lost billions in interest income during the Fed’s near-zero interest rate experiment. Because they are often reliant on income from savings, seniors were hit the hardest. Households headed by seniors 65-74 years old lost on average $1,900 in annual income over the past six years, according to a November 2013 McKinsey Global Institute report. For households headed by seniors 75 and older, the loss was $2,700 annually.

With a median income for senior households in the U.S. of roughly $25,000, these are significant losses. In total, according to my company’s calculations, approximately $58 billion in annual income has been lost by America’s seniors since 2008.

Retirees depend on income from their savings for basic living expenses. Without that income, many seniors have taken on greater risk to increase the yield on their savings, or simply spent down their nest eggs. After decades of playing by the rules, putting off spending and socking away money, seniors have taken it on the chin. This strikes a blow at the core American principles of self-reliance, individual responsibility and fairness.

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Lost everything when my business failed and now, at 63, working two part time jobs and getting $563 a month in early retirement pay,” said Elwood of Sinking Spring, Pa., who also supports two family members.

Elwood’s situation became desperate when he was unable to complete a “short sale” of his home. In a short sale, the buyer pays less than the remaining amount on the seller’s mortgage. In some cases, lenders will forgive some or all of the difference but lately, banks have been squeezing consumers for every last cent.

Elwood said he found a buyer for his home but Chase Mortgage rejected the deal and began foreclosure proceedings.

The Forgotten Ones

The Forgotten Ones

With the Fed’s near-zero policy, households headed by someone 75 or older have lost $2,700 annually in interest income.

What happen’s to the investment when the Government defaults on the debt, With the most to loose I guess Seniors would loose all ???

First ObamaCare and now Obama Fund

obama silly Stop Me If You Can. I Will Do What I Want.

Remember what we have already learned over a century ago. Modern liberalism is the worst disease of all… it doesn’t merely get people killed, it takes down countries!

REMEMBER, the DEMOCRATS took over COMPLETE CONTROL OF FEDERAL SPENDING, at the end of 2006, and had control of BOTH HOUSES through October 2010. The ECONOMIC CRASH, that OBAMA cites, happened in late 2008, under a Democratic Congress’s watch. (Obama says DEMOCRAT POLICIES have only been effect for 4 years. Actually, that’s EIGHT YEARS.)

 

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The slow, deadly destruction of American freedom has carried us to this day of Obama,

 

NWO presidents.jpg 2These 5 New World Order Presidents never asked Americans if they wanted A global Government, A New World Order or Agenda 2.  They just sent our jobs over seas, Increased immigration by millions and stole our Social Security. (jc) We must have a President that will roll back Barak Obama’s 7,000 new regulations.  My pick Ted Cruz, a fighter for our Constitution (jc)      ———————————————————————-

By Ron Ewart  March 9, 2010 | Comments| Print friendly |

 “The world is a dangerous place to live ….. not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don’t do anything about it.”  Albert Einstein

That’s right.  It’s over.  Their guns are bigger.  They control all the money.  They control the energy.  They control the land.  They control the food and they control the water.  Soon they will control our health care, down to the last detail on our electronic health care records being stored in a giant computer in Washington DC, from which they can determine if we are worthy of receiving health care.  The older we get, the less worthy we become.

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Just like the guy standing on the beach witnessing in horror, the onrushing tsunami wave and has no place to run, we might just as well bend over and kiss our behinds goodbye.  Freedom and liberty are gone.  The constitution and bill of rights are just so much toilet paper and American sovereignty is but a fading memory of a bunch of dead guys who thought they could create individual liberty and have it last.   This didn’t happen overnight, you know.  It’s been coming on for about a hundred to a hundred and twenty years.  First, the civil war gave us the 14th Amendment,

immigrants crossing border  we now let illegal aliens become U. S. Citizens, thus creating a magnet for millions more to come.

Then a cadre of real smart guys from Harvard around the 1880s (the Dean and Supreme Court Justice, Oliver Wendell Holmes) decided that we shouldn’t be bothered by the strict interpretation of the U. S. Constitution, we need to use court precedence’s to guide our adjudication of laws and legislation, court precedence’s that reflect the changing social nature of our society.  (Socialism by any other name)  They called this new paradigm of legal jurisprudence, Positivism.  A collective shudder must have rattled the souls of the Founding Fathers and a deep groan could be heard emanating from their graves.  Cracks started forming in our Constitution.smiley-angry019

Then came the first dictator of America and Constitution hater, President Woodrow Wilson, who did everything in his power to open the cracks in the Constitution even wider, by forming the League of Corrupt Nations, presiding over the 16th Amendment and the creation of the Federal Reserve and the Internal Revenue Service, which legalized taxes on Americans that were never authorized by the Constitution.  The government, with this new found source of revenue, began to grow and grow and gain immense power.

Second dictator of America, FDR,

Constitutional  Corruption didn’t stop with President Wilson. The second dictator of America, FDR, used a crow bar to pry the cracks in our Constitution so far that it became literally unrecognizable.  He did it by using the emergency of the Great Depression as his rationale to fundamentally transform America.  The opposition to FDR was fierce, but the great savior and orator convinced the weak among us (voters), that the only answer to this unprecedented and worsening crisis had to come at the expense of their freedom and liberty.  In the fog of our pending destruction of the 1930s, unions, socialists, Nazis, communists and the Technocrats all rose in prominence to “feed” the hungry souls of the weak and troubled within our ranks.  Many were forever converted, and the cracks in the Constitution got wider still.

The slow, deadly destruction of American freedom has carried us to this day of Obama, who is trying to repeat, in spades, what FDR did,

 Fundamentally transforming America into a utopian socialist society, once again exploiting the weak among us and using the strategy of class warfare to dupe the naive into supporting this constitutional treason.

Johnson and Carter took us deeper into the abyss of socialism and the weakening of American power in the world.  Obama, Pelosi and Reid are attempting to tip America over the edge from which there will be no return and they are on the verge of completing the job …… if they get their way.

The fact is, the American people, the so-called Consent of the Governed, went to sleep for a hundred years and have allowed what we face today to happen.  If there is anyone to blame, we can only blame ourselves.  We had the mechanisms to stop these traitors from tearing the fabric of freedom asunder, but we abandoned our roots of freedom, obtained at great sacrifice, in favor of comfort and security.  We couldn’t be bothered.

Still, there are indications that the Obamas in America have awakened a sleeping giant and have run headlong into a center-right brick wall.  Some have said that the progressives are beginning to unravel.  As evidence of their unraveling, attacks on conservatives grow by the day.  They fear us, and they worry we might be successful in ruining their diabolical plans for America.  They just might be right, but that depends entirely on the level of conservative commitment to defend freedom.

We are in a war for the very survival of individual liberty and for the last 100 years, we have been losing that war. History is on the ragged edge of repeating itself, once again. It is evident that serfs they want us to be and serfs we will become …… unless tens of millions of Americans have the b…..lls to stop them, with whatever it takes. If we are divided and fragmented in our prosecution of this war, we most surely will lose. But losing is not an option if freedom and liberty are to be preserved for present and future generations.

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Dr. Ben Carson that President Barack Obama is putting the needs and desires of non-citizens over those who elected him.

9_162014_b1-carson-constitut8201_s877x511-580x337It only took Dr. Ben Carson three sentences to demolish the executive orders granting amnesty to five million illegal immigrants announced by President Barack Obama Thursday night.

And it only took a few hours for those words, shared on the African-American Conservatives Facebook page, to begin going viral.

There are so many of our own people who are having a very difficult time finding jobs, making ends meet,” Carson said, according to the Facebook post. “This is not going to aid those people.

ben-carson-one-nation“Is there ever going to come a time when maybe we think about our own people first?”

This doesn’t seem like an overly complicated concept, but it’s one that the president and his fellow liberals seem to have difficulty grasping.

There may be those who consider the words of the likely 2016 Republican presidential contender racist — but that would be a difficult argument to maintain. Carson was not referring to a race when he said “our people,” but rather a citizenry made up of many races — indeed, a citizenry made up of essentially every race.

Nor was Carson suggesting that Americans, always a big-hearted people, ignore the plight of those from other nations who truly require assistance with basic needs just to survive. He merely said that America’s elected representatives should give first consideration to those who voted for them — not to those without a vote.

It’s hard to see how anyone could reasonably argue against that sort of common sense.

Please share this article on Twitter and Facebook if you agree with Dr. Ben Carson that President Barack Obama is putting the needs and desires of non-citizens over those who elected him.

Brzezinski Call’s The Shots; Obama’s job Is Simply To Sell Them To The People.

when your country is telling you noAnd a question: Does anyone really believe that someone, a ‘man of the people’, would simply appear from apparently nowhere to run the slickest and best-funded presidential campaign in American history? He was chosen long ago by those who wish to enslave the very people that Obama says he wants to ‘set free’.

You only have to look at the cabal behind Obama, and those he has appointed to his administration team, to see what his ‘change’ is truly planned to be.

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His mentor, Svengali and main controller is Zbigniew Brzezinski, Jimmy Carter’s National Security Advisor, and the co-founder, with David Rockefeller, of the Illuminati’s Trilateral Commission. Brzezinski has admitted publicly that he began to fund and train what he would call today ‘terrorists’ in Afghanistan to oppose the Soviet-controlled government in the capital, Kabul, in the late 1970s. The idea, he said, was to entice the Soviet Union to invade Afghanistan to protect the Kabul regime and thus give the rival superpower ‘their Vietnam’. The plan worked at the cost of a million Afghan lives during the Soviet occupation from 1979 to 1989, a consequence that troubles Brzezinski not at all.

Brzezinski’s ‘freedom fighters’ would become known as the ‘Mujahideen’ and later the Taliban and what is claimed to be ‘Al-Qaeda’. This is the man behind ‘anti-war’, Barack Obama. It was common knowledge that President Carter would do nothing involving foreign policy without the okay from Brzezinski, the co-founder of the Trilateral Commission which chose Carter for president. It is one of many great ironies of the Obama presidency that he was demanding massive troop reinforcements to be sent to Afghanistan to fight the Taliban terrorists who were initially armed, trained and organized by Brzezinski, the man behind Obama. As Morpheus says in The Matrix: ‘Fate, it seems, is not without its sense of irony’. if they are Brzezinski’s targets, they are Obama’s targets.

The Trilateral Commission and the wider Brzezinski network, including Illuminati fronts like the Ford Foundation, have chosen Obama and the situation will be the same. Brzezinski will call the shots; Obama’s job is simply to sell them to the people. This is rather alarming when you think that it had been said Brzezinski wants to trigger a war involving Russia and China.?????

‘Obama’s’ policies come straight from Brzezinski’s books. Here is one Brzezinski quote you might recognize and it was made before Obama ran for president: ‘Needed social reassessment … can be encouraged by deliberate civic education that stresses the notion of service to a higher cause than oneself. As some have occasionally urged, a major step in that direction would be the adoption of an obligatory period of national service for every young adult, perhaps involving a variety of congressionally approved domestic or foreign good works.’
Now where have I heard that before? As an Illuminati operative, Brzezinski’s aim is to create a world government, central bank, currency and army – a global dictatorship – underpinned by a micro chipped population connected to a global computer/satellite system. He wrote a book in 1970, Between Two Ages: America’s Role in the Technetronic Era, in which he described the global society that he and the Illuminati seek to impose:

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**The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities.’ He also said in the same book nearly 40 years ago: ‘Today we are again witnessing the emergence of transnational elites … Whose ties cut across national boundaries … It is likely that before long the social elites of most of the more advanced countries will be highly internationalist or globalist in spirit and outlook …** The nation-state is gradually yielding its sovereignty … Further progress will require greater American sacrifices

More intensive efforts to shape a new world monetary structure will have to be undertaken, with some consequent risk to the present relatively favorable American position.’

And what does his puppet, Obama, now say that Americans have to do to bring about ‘change’? ‘Make sacrifices’. As Mrs. Demagogue, Michelle, said: ‘We need a different leadership because our souls are broken. We need to be inspired … to make the sacrifices that are needed to push us to a different place.’** You can bet that this will include sacrificing more sovereignty and freedom on the road to the global dictatorship described by Brzezinski for decades.

Brzezinski’s son, Mark, was an ‘advisor’ to the Obama campaign (doing what his father told him) and, in line with the American one-party-state, his other son, Ian, was *foreign policy advisor to the McCain campaign (doing what his father told him). His daughter, the Obama-supporting Mika Brzezinski, reported the campaign for MSNBC television.
Obama has been the chosen one for a long time, a fact known only to a few in the deep inner circle, and his relationship with Brzezinski almost certainly goes back to the start of the 1980s when he attended the Ivy League, and big-time Illuminati, Columbia University where Brzezinski was head of the Institute for Communist Affairs. Obama simply will not talk in any detail about this period. He has been covertly funded and supported ever since by the Trilateral Commission and its network of foundations connecting into the Ford Foundation, for whom Obama’s mother worked.

And a question: Does anyone really believe that someone, a ‘man of the people’, would simply appear from apparently nowhere to run the slickest and best-funded presidential campaign in American history? He was chosen long ago by those who wish to enslave the very people that Obama says he wants to ‘set free’.

The sources of Obama funding read like a Wall Street Who’s Who – Goldman Sachs, UBS, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, Deutsche Bank, J.P. Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, and so on. No wonder he went back on his pledge to accept the limitations of public funding for his campaign and instead took the no-limit option of ‘private’ funding.
And those people are going to support a candidate who does not represent their best interests?? Oh please.

Obama and his seasoned network of professional manipulators, sorry his ‘campaign team’, sold the lie that he had refused to take funding from ‘lobbyists’, those who are paid to ensure that politicians frame legislation, or block it, in the interests of their clients.

But like everything that surrounds Obama, past and present, it’s a sleight of hand and mouth. They funneled vast sums of money into the Obama accounts through law firms that represent lobbyists and lobby groups. It provided ‘plausible denial’ about funding from lobbyists while the money poured in from lobby interests via third parties.

Then there is the Jewish financier, George Soros, the multi-billionaire associate of Brzezinski and closely involved with the funding and marketing of Obama. Soros is a former board member of the Illuminati’s Council on Foreign Relations and funds the European Council on Foreign Relations. In short, he is a major insider.

You can certainly see the Soros/Brzezinski techniques in the Obama ‘revolution’ in the United States.
It was the complex and secretive network of Soros foundations and organizations, connected to the intelligence agencies of the US and Israel, that trained and funded students in the Ukraine, Georgia and elsewhere in the art of mass protest and overthrowing governments. These manufactured protests were sold to the world as ‘peoples’ revolutions’, but it just so happened that when they were over and the old regime was removed the new leaders were those waiting in the wings all along – the puppets of Soros, Brzezinski and their associated networks.

Obama is just more of the same, a big smile with strings attached, and controlled completely by the Illuminati networks that chose him, trained him, sold him and provided his record funding.** It was they who kept his many skeletons under wraps, like the gay sex and crack cocaine allegations of Larry Sinclair, and they will continue to do so as long as he jumps to their bidding.

Obama is just another Banksters’ moll prostituting himself for fame and power, and that’s why he supported the grotesque bail-out of the banking system and why he will always put their interests before the people.

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His financial advisors are straight from the Wall Street ‘A’ list, including Paul Adolph Volker (Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderberg Group), the head of the Federal Reserve from 1979 to 1987 and Illuminati to his fingertips. Obama has made him head of the Economic Recovery Advisory Board, which is dominated by insiders, including its staff director and chief economist, Austan Goolsbee, a close Obama associate from the University of Chicago. Goolsbee is an initiate of the infamous Illuminati Skull and Bones Society at Yale University, which also includes Boy and Father Bush.* It was Goolsbee who told the Canadian government not to worry about Obama’s attacks on the economic effects of ‘free trade’ agreements because his words were just to win votes in the election campaign.

Another Wall Street insider, the Zionist Timothy Geithner (Bilderberg Group, Trilateral Commission, Council on Foreign Relations), was appointed by Obama to be his Treasury Secretary. Geithner was the President of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, the most powerful in the private ‘Federal’ Reserve cartel that masquerades as America’s ‘central bank’, and he is a former employee of both the Council on Foreign Relations and the appalling Kissinger Associates.

Obama’s Treasury team locks into the inner circle around the Zionist Robert Rubin, the Director and Senior Counselor of Citigroup, co-chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations, and economic advisor to Obama. Rubin, a member of the Illuminati Bilderberg Group, was the man behind Citigroup’s strategy of expanding its risk in debt markets which forced it to be rescued by taxpayers’ money.

*The very people who caused the financial crisis appointed by Obama to decide how to respond to it (more taxpayers’ money for them and their friends).

Obama’s new “Executive Order 13524 — Amending Executive Order 12425″ grants the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) “rights” on American soil that place it beyond the reach of our own law enforcement agencies, such as the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)!

This lays the ground work for INTERPOL do do what the President cannot legally justify doing. INTERPOL, on instructions from the Obama regime, will now be able to carry out actions prohibited to our own law enforcement!

Barack Obama is taking the U.S. down the path to MARTIAL LAW –

 

Legal battles against conservative state governors keep cropping up. Rick Perry, Scott Walker, and Bobby Jindal—all conservatives and all potential 2016 presidential candidates—have become the victims of vile smear campaigns from the left. What’s even more disturbing is that the trail of money financing these flimsy legal cases all seem to lead directly to George Soros.

George Soros has donated over $52 million to numerous liberal media outlets. He also has woven a web of influential left-wing operations, including Media Matters and Center for American Progress, that advance his socialist ideology.

Having funneled millions into journalism schools and more than 180 media outlets across the nation, it’s no wonder that the liberal media fail to report the connections between Soros and his attacks on elected officials he disagrees with. While ABC, CBS, and NBC were eagerly salivating to report on Scott Walker’s legal problems and Rick Perry’s indictment, not a single one mentioned the financial connection to George Soros.
 Media scoffed at the existence of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and the Trilateral Commission and their goals for creating a one world government and economic system. Today prominent politicians, such as Hillary Clinton, make press statements with the CFR logo in the background as if to signal her allegiance to their globalist goals.

Hillary more of the sameHillary Clinton stands poised to inherit that activist indifference from the media (provided the even more thinly resumed Elizabeth Warren doesn’t decide to run). Her lack of accomplishment is being swept aside and replaced with “having been there” as some sort of resume enhancement. Her tenure as secretary of state is being portrayed as a relatively stable time, not the planting of currently sprouting seeds of problems because of her indifference and the president’s fecklessness.

Here’s some of the real Hillary as President.

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Billions vanished from the U.S. State Department mostly while Hillary Clinton ran it,according to alert issued by the agency’s inspector general.$6 billion are missing and it’s highly unlikely any of the money will ever be recovered. The cash was supposed to be used to pay contractors but it just disappeared and documents that could help track the dough cannot be located. How convenient! The paper trail, which federal law says must be maintained in the case of government contracts, has been destroyed or was never created to begin with.

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OBAMA TO ALLOW 100,000 HAITIANS INTO AMERICA WITHOUT A VISA

when your country is telling you noCalling it “an irresponsible overreach of the executive branch’s authority,” Senator Charles Grassley, ranking Republican on the Judiciary Committee, is criticizing an executive order issued by the president that would allow at least 100,000 Haitian nationals into the United States to be “reunited with their families.”

Washington Times:

“Which countries are next on President Obama’s list?” Mr. Grassley said. “Will there by medical screenings before entry? Will work permits be granted automatically? How will this affect American workers?”

U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the branch of the Department of Homeland Security that handles immigration benefits cases, announced Friday the program to unite Haitians already living in the U.S. with family members abroad will ramp up in 2015.

At that time the State Department’s National Visa Center will begin notifying families who may be eligible to take part in the program. Those immigrants will allowed to apply for work permits while waiting for issuance of their permanent visas.

The agency said the program will expedite “safe, legal and orderly migration.”

A similar program that reunited Central American children with their parents had a fraud rate of about 70%.

Read the rest of the story at American Thinker.

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Obama can veto bills, of course, and he surely will. But what he can’t do is shove insane, left-wing nonsense down the nation’s collective throat. That’s over

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Enough.

Dan Calabrese on Wednesday November 5th, 2014

The American public realized not long after the 2012 election that they had blown it. Given the opportunity to fire Barack Obama and turn the federal government back in a wise direction, they should have seized the moment and done just that. Instead, they got caught up nonsense like Big Bird and “binders full of women”, and in not liking rich, CEO-ish Republicans, and as a result they dropped the ball and stuck the nation with four more years of an unserious, unqualified, inept president.

Oops. Sadly, the Constitution doesn’t offer a mechanism for correcting that mistake. Just don’t do it again, boneheads.

But what the electorate could do, it did last night. In essence, America told Obama to step aside. By giving Republicans at least a 52-seat majority in the U.S. Senate, and probably its biggest House majority since Franklin Delano Roosevelt was president, the nation sent Obama to the sidelines. Not a single piece of legislation will reach his desk for the remainder of his presidency without massive Republican backing.

Obama can veto bills, of course, and he surely will. But what he can’t do is shove insane, left-wing nonsense down the nation’s collective throat. That’s over.

He also can’t hide behind Senate inaction like he did when Harry Reid controlled the upper chamber and routinely bottled up any piece of legislation that came out of the Republican House – not even allowing commitee hearings or floor debates, let alone votes.

The nation has passed judgment on Barack Obama’s presidency, and the verdict is thumbs down. People were not fooled by recent GDP growth numbers or falling gas prices. They were able to assess a six-year record of sluggish growth, falling labor force participation, rising food stamp dependence, hostility toward business and meddling in private markets – particularly health care – and recognize that it’s made things worse and not better. They were able to look at America’s declining influence in an increasingly chaotic world and recognize that a president who rejects America’s global leadership role doesn’t do any good for America or the rest of the world. And they were able to see that juvenile blather about the “war on women” and so forth demonstrates complete unseriousness from a party that said it would govern, not endlessly campaign.

The media tried its best to protect Obama by ignoring stories like the IRS scandal, but in an era of alternative and social media, it didn’t work. People knew that instead of serving the public, the Obama White House was using government agencies to serve itself at the expense of anyone who opposed them or their agenda.

Liberals will offer predictable excuses, of course. They’ll say it was just an anti-incumbent election, or that it reflected nonspecific “voter anger,” or that it was the product of too many Democrats defending seats in red states. That will come as a surprise to the conservative blue state governors who won re-election last night. Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio and Florida all joined in the mistake of electing and re-electing Obama, and also put conservatives back in their statehouses last night. This was not an “anti-incumbent” nor was it an “anger” election. It was a rejection of Obama and of liberalism, pure and simple.

Today, Obama is relegated to a reactive presidency, except to the extent that he can go around Congress and use unconstitutional executive orders in lieu of passing legislation – and given his track record you can be sure he will try. But now when he does so, he will no longer have Harry Reid protecting him by refusing to look into it in the Senate.

SupremeCourtsReasonForExistingAlso, in the event there is a Supreme Court vacancy in the next two years, Obama will not be able to appoint an insane left-wing Justice with the assistance of a Democrat majority.

This is not to say it will be easy for the Republican majority. They will surely face shrieking about “extremism” from day one, and of course they still have to contend with Obama’s veto pen. But we can expect real budgets, real investigations and real policy progress. Obama has been essentially neutered by a nation that realizes it should have done so two years ago, but did what it could now to make up for the error.

I know many conservatives had little confidence in John Boehner and Mitch McConnell. I share their skepticism. So I’ll tell you this: A Facebook friend who is tight with the Republican establishment in Washington has been saying for the longest time that if the GOP were ever to control both the House and the Senate, then we would see what stalwart conservatives both of these men really are.

Well. Go.

Obama and Democrats in Congress, actually want food prices to rise

obama-immeltWhat is happening today, however, is unique: this is the first time in American history when an administration is deliberately forcing food prices higher in order to increase dependency and extend government control over the economy.

There is hardship ahead even for those not dependent on government aid. Despite our nation’s vast agricultural resources, Americans are not immune to the kinds of food shortages that have existed throughout human history and that continue to exist in developing countries today. It takes only a short time for a nation to slip from abundance into impoverishment.

A century ago Romania, with its productive agricultural sector, was among the richest countries in Europe. The abundant harvests that had once fed Romania’s people were commandeered by the government and shipped abroad to bankroll the extravagant lifestyle of the rulers and to fund the state security apparatus necessary to defend it. This and fundamental mismanagement resulted in decades of hunger for the Romanian people.

For America the combination of corn ethanol mandates and a weak-dollar policy is, in effect, a “Romania-style” seizure of the nation’s food supply. The left is intent on gaining control of America’s natural resources — its agricultural and energy sectors, in particular — and for exactly the same reason they were seized in communist states such as Romania. The control of food and energy is the means by which the left hopes to gain permanent power over the American people.

America is approaching a future in which food will be expensive and in short supply. The combination of an ever expanding corn ethanol program and the demands of a tighter global market will make food less affordable and less available.

27421988-sad-children-hugging-his-motherWhat may not be so obvious is that the American left, led by Obama and Democrats in Congress, actually want food prices to rise, just as they want energy prices to rise, (see update on oil below)so as to create further dependency. If they did not, they would take simple measures to lower prices: eliminate ethanol mandates, eliminate protective tariffs, strengthen the dollar, and allow the free market to govern prices. But none of this will happen with the left in charge because high prices and shortages serve the interest of a party intent on centralized control of the economy.

This disaster can only be averted by the defeat of Obama and of the Democrat-controlled Senate , and by the removal of leftists from government agencies such as the Environmental Protection Agency, Health and Human Services, and the Department of Agriculture. Above all, the nation must return to a free-market economy in which prices for food and all else are determined by supply and demand, not by the ambitions of leftists in Washington.

Jeffrey Folks

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Food prices have been steadily rising under Obama. The price of a pound of potatoes has gone up by a third, the price of a gallon of milk has increased by a fifth and the price of a 5lb bag of flour has gone up by a dollar.

Bacon was at $3.60 a lb under Bush. It’s now up to $5.60 a lb under Obama. The price of a whole frozen Thanksgiving turkey was at $1.32 a lb under Bush. It’s up to $1.81 under Obama giving Americans that much less to be thankful for this Thanksgiving.

groceriesThe price of a tub of margarine went up from $1.50 to $2.10. But that won’t be a problem for long because thanks to Obama it may soon become hard to get margarine at any price.

Obama’s FDA is considering a ban on trans fat in foods. Like incandescent bulbs and cheap free market health insurance, margarine may become one of those things that you can no longer buy anymore.

It will also mean that many other foods will either be banned, become more expensive or taste worse.

The FDA had already mandated trans fat labeling on products. The new ban would not protect anyone; instead it would take away the right of Americans to choose what they eat. Under the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1906, the FDA was created to prevent “the manufacture, sale, or transportation of adulterated or misbranded or poisonous or deleterious foods, drugs, medicines, and liquors.” Its claim that trans fat in foods make them adulterated is a deliberate misinterpretation of its powers.

The FDA’s food policing powers do not give it the right to ban unhealthy foods. If they did, the FDA could outlaw every kind of junk food. And it has begun doing that with its argument that trans fats are unsafe because they are unhealthy; building up plaque in arteries and increasing the risk of heart attacks.

Here’s a short list of foods that build up plaque in arteries and increase the risk of heart attacks.

Milk, butter, cheese, ice cream, hot dogs, salami, French fries and eggs. The FDA has given itself the authority to ban everything from a glass of milk to a carton of eggs. And that’s not an exaggeration.

Last year a new study came out whose author claimed that eating eggs was as bad for the heart as smoking cigarettes, compared the egg industry to the tobacco industry and was followed by suggestions that egg cartons should carry health warnings like tobacco cartons.

Every time you see another one of those contradictory health warning stories, imagine that they can lead to a ban on everything from wine to chocolate to eggs

 update note: added 12/13/14

Patrick Smith wrote of – Obama’s unabated childish desire to ruin Putin and Russia’s economy . And my thought perhaps kill oil production in the U.S for Obama’s Greenies. Kerry told the Saudis 1) to raise production and 2) to cut its crude price. Keep in mind these pertinent numbers: The Saudis produce a barrel of oil for less than $30 as break-even in the national budget; the Russians need apx $105.

Shortly after Kerry’s visit, the Saudis began increasing production, sure enough — by more than 100,000 barrels daily Other OPEC members are screaming for relief, and the Saudis make back-to-back moves certain to push falling prices still lower?

 

Obama,Clinton Selling Out U.S. Sovereignty in Secret ?

Obama, Clinton Selling Out U.S. Sovereignty in SecretObama, Clinton work in secret to surrender U.S. sovereignty?

By Victor Thorn: Victor Thorn is a hard-hitting researcher, journalist and author of over 40 books.

Is the Obama administration secretly negotiating treaties with globalist bodies, in violation of the Unites States Constitution? That’s the question on the minds of a number of political watchdogs, who argue that the White House is doing an end run around Congress and the American people in order to lock the country into agreements on the environment, fishing rights and even gun ownership with the United Nations (UN).

On February 7, former Bill Clinton campaign manager Dick Morris dissected a host of international “sneaky treaties” that, he says, “Once signed and ratified, have the same status as constitutional law and cannot be altered or eclipsed by Congress or state legislatures. And their provisions must be enforced by U.S. courts.”

The most egregious of these would be U.S. membership in the International Criminal Court (ICC). This tribunal that has jurisdiction across the globe could prosecute elected U.S. leaders for entering into a war without UN approval. These “crimes of aggression”—even if approved by Congress under an official declaration of war—could still land the president or cabinet members in prison. The ICC’s reach supersedes the rulings of any U.S. court, thereby posing a serious threat to constitutionally-guaranteed trials by a jury of our peers.

A lesser-known aspect of this treaty involves, ironically, the use of America’s military to wage aggressions against those deemed war criminals by the ICC.

Already, Barack Obama has buckled to this ruling body by sending armed forces into Africa to execute an arrest warrant for alleged war criminal Joseph Kony, leader of the Lord’s Resistance Army in Uganda.

Yet rather than having Congress authorize sending U.S. men and women into action overseas, Obama bypassed them and opted to exert his “executive power.” He justified this decision as an “international obligation.” Who is our president obligated to: American citizens or the New World Order?

Another treaty, one advocating children’s rights, would—at least superficially—protect youths from kidnapping, prostitution and human trafficking. However, if a 14-member panel determines that certain countries like the U.S. aren’t providing enough funding for food, education or clothing to underdeveloped nations, the UN could levy a tax on American citizens and then redistribute this money to Third World countries.

Not surprisingly, a leading proponent for the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC) is Hillary Clinton. In her book It Takes a Village, she wrote: “The village must act in the place of parents. It accepts these responsibilities in all our names through the authority we vest in the government.”  

These 14-member overlords could also weigh in on what religious teachings, educational material and social attitudes are acceptable.

27421988-sad-children-hugging-his-motherInterestingly, Hillary’s views on child-rearing dovetail with those of the UNCRC. “They parents have to be shown how to do it,” wrote Hillary. “They have to be, in a sense, re-parented to be able to be a good parent.” Hillary is so distrustful of traditional families that she further elaborated.: “Decisions about motherhood and abortion, schooling, cosmetic surgery, treatment of venereal diseases or employment and others where the decision—or lack of one—will significantly reflect the child’s future should not be made unilaterally by the parent.”

If these social-engineering thoughts aren’t horrifying enough, Hillary remarked at the University of Texas in 1993, “Let us be willing to remold society by redefining what it means to be a human being in the 20th century, moving into the new millennium.”

 

A third troublesome treaty is known as the Law of the Sea Treaty, or LOST. Over 162 nations have signed or ratified it. Many other nations, such as Turkey and Israel, have stayed out of it. Today, America is not on board, but this situation may change if Obama sidesteps the Constitution yet again via executive order.

LOST is being promoted by another Clinton crony, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, who seeks to surrender seas off the coasts of the United States to UN overseers.

Although the complexities of this treaty are far too vast to elaborate on here, in a nutshell LOST will acquiesce to a UN council where U.S. companies can drill for oil or fish and which technologies must become global property via a form of intellectual eminent domain. The UN could tax up to 50% of royalties from offshore drilling and redistribute these proceeds to poorer nations.      

male-crying-100100961In another example, the Outer Space Code of Conduct could seriously interfere with the U.S. implementing any type of anti-missile shield to protect itself. Using the feel-good premise of decreasing space debris, in actuality this treaty would jeopardize the U.S. military’s ability to deploy platform-based weapons in space. When it comes to China and India’s rapid development of their space programs and offensive weaponry, are Americans willing to forfeit their safety to the edicts of UN bureaucrats that already view us with such outright enmity?

Obama and Hillary are also targeting Americans’ firearms ownership. In early April, Sen. Rand Paul issued a statement on this: “Secretary of State Hillary Clinton recently announced the Obama administration will be working hand in glove with the United Nations to pass a new ‘UN Small Arms Treaty.’ ”

The UN Small Arms Treaty is designed to “register, ban and confiscate firearms owned by private citizens like you,” wrote Paul. If Washington signs onto this, added Paul, the U.S. would be forced to “enact tougher licensing requirements . . . confiscate and destroy all ‘unauthorized’ civilian firearms . . . ban the trade, sale and private ownership of semiautomatic weapons . . .and create an international gun registry.”

Globalist Treaties Terrible for America

During a May 10 interview with AMERICAN FREE PRESS,

Becky Fenger, A political columnist for Arizona’s Sonoran News, voiced her concerns to this writer in regard to a rash of globalist treaties being negotiated by the current administration

Hillary is the war on women says kathleen wiley “What are Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama thinking?” asked Mrs. Fenger. “I can’t understand why they would willingly hand over power to the UN. How can you reason with these people when it seems like they’ve lost their minds?”    smiley-shocked028

When questioned about the Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) and the International Criminal Court (ICC), Mrs. Fenger replied: “Do you know how detrimental they are to our nation? We used to worry about communism and those who wanted to take over the U.S. But now we’re surrendering our sovereignty to the UN, which is filled with petty dictators. America should get out of the UN, since we pay the bulk of dues and always get voted against anyway.”

According to Mrs. Fenger, the dangers facing us are monumental. “These treaties become the equivalent of law,” she said, “and it’ll take 161 countries to release us from them.

Worse, I’m not sure if Congress is even aware of what’s going on, or if they understand how binding these treaties are.”

She continued: “Look at the ICC. Aggression is described as going to war without UN approval, which includes Russia and China. What kind of mind thinks that succumbing to this is a good idea?”

Mrs. Fenger next addressed one of Mrs. Clinton’s favorite pet projects.

“Hillary said it takes a village, not a parent, to raise children,” she said. “Their goal is really to get these little minds and teach them from infancy to love global government dictatorship. But why should we relinquish parental control when it’s been a guiding light throughout history?

They want to disintegrate the family unit and replace it with government. It’s unconscionable. Our personal liberties have always frightened them, so their goal is to take freedom out of the hands of every individual.” AFP broached the subject of Obama’s increasing use of executive orders.

“I used to think that a law couldn’t pass if it was unconstitutional, but what about eminent domain and the Kelo decision?” she asked. “I’ve lost all faith in what used to be known as common sense and following the Constitution.

Obama has proved he doesn’t give a damn about the Constitution.” The Kelo case refers to a 2002 Supreme Court ruling which found that private entities can take property for a price from private individuals who do not want to give it up if the private company can argue that the property will be used for the common good.

Specifically, the case involved a house owned by Susette Kelo in New London, Conn. As it turns out, a developer bought Mrs. Kelo’s house, even though she didn’t want to move. After all the homes in the area had been bulldozed, however, funding for the developer’s project fell through, and the town was forced to take it over. It is now a landfill.

AFP also spoke with author Brandon Pierce, author of a novel about the Bilderberg group entitled Crisis Point. He agreed, telling this writer on May 11,

“Americans could be tried in a world court even after they’ve been acquitted in the U.S. It has a direct effect on all of us when an international body can decide what happens to our leaders and citizens.”

Is Hillary or Barack Wearing the Pants in the White House? Is Secretary of State and one-time Bilderberg attendee Hillary Clinton the shadow president of the United States, just as it was claimed she was de facto governor and president during her husband’s tenure in Arkansas and Washington, D.C.?

Doubters should be reminded of a Febrary 24, 2008 quote delivered by Barack Obama during a campaign stop in Loraine, Ohio. “She Hillary has essentially presented herself as co-president during the Clinton years.” Obama knew full well of what he spoke. Journalist Scott Creighton’s March 19, 2011 article, “President Hillary Clinton’s Shock and Awe,” began with this stark contrast.

While Hillary Clinton met with 22 world leaders to decide the fate of Libya, they kept Barack Obama in the back of the bus and let the real president take the lead.”

Creighton also pointed out that while Obama golfed and vacationed, Hillary conferred with practically every world leader and dignitary imaginable. A quick glance at the State Dept.’s travel itinerary reveals nearly 75 trips to foreign countries by Clinton where the real groundwork for a New World Order super-structure was being laid.

While some commentators call Hillary a “Globalist Grand Wizard,” her influence spread to the formation of Obama’s Cabinet after his 2008 election. In a March 18 article, Edward Ulrich wrote, “31 of the 47 people Barack Obama has named for appointments have ties to the Clinton administration, including Eric Holder, Larry Summers, Rahm Emanuel and Timothy Geithner.”

To get a better idea of Hillary’s modus operandi, in a 2006 film entitled Inside Man, Hollywood actress Jodie Foster analyzed her character’s role in remedying delicate situations.

“She’s a fixer, a rich Madison Avenue lawyer who fixes things when they go wrong. Say you were a mayor and you got caught in bed with three dead hookers, I would be brought in to fix the situation.” When asked how her character did it, Foster replied, “Call in lots of favors. You use people and kind of puppet behind the scenes, manipulate them. She’s a dubious bad guy.” The above words perfectly describe Hillary Clinton’s entire political career.

In fact, HILLARY (AND BILL) THE MURDER VOLUME contains the following passage. “Hillary acted as an enabler and fixer to cover-up for her husband’s serial philandering and sexual reign of terror.”

But being a handler for Bill’s raging libido was minor compared to Hillary’s role in trafficking drugs through Mena Airport, the cover-up of Vince Foster and Ron Brown’s murders, Chinagate, and laundering money through the Arkansas Development Finance Authority to finance their campaigns. Learning the ropes from Washington, D.C.’s former fixer extraordinaire—longtime Bilderberg luminary Vernon Jordan—Hillary has always nurtured a comfortable relationship with Wall Street bankers and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR).

Indeed, during a July 17, 2009 CFR (Council Of Foreign Relations )address, Hillary revealed, “We get a lot of advice from the Council, so this will mean I won’t have as far to go to be told what we should be doing and how we should think about the future.” With the Obama administration pursuing a number of globalist treaties that undermine American sovereignty, it’s clear that Hillary Clinton is the driving force behind these moves as she traveled from country to country.

According to the elitist’s worldview, individuals should be subordinate and powerless to collectivists, while nationalists are viewed as a distraction to be folded into the globalist whole.

During a July 17, 2009 CFR address, Hillary revealed: “We get a lot of advice from the council, so this will mean I won’t have as far to go to be told what we should be doing and how we should think about the future.” –

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Victor Thorn is a hard-hitting researcher, journalist and author of over 40 books.

 

 

Remember The Health Security Act (Hillary Care)

hillary bill obama cartoonNov. 12, 1993 as the Health Security Act (Hillary Care)was in its death throes, Bill Clinton was so concerned about AIDS that , he suggested that a provision be added to the bill mandating a one-time screening for AIDS be done on all US citizens.

Clinton also proposed having the CDC require every citizen with full-blown AIDS to be confined to AIDS sanatoriums until they were no longer contagious, or until they died.

The sanatoriums were to be situated in sparsely-populated areas of the country. Upon admission, patients would be required to sign living wills with euthanasia previsions that could be triggered by proxy when their healthcare providers deemed them to be “terminal.”

The AIDS provision Clinton wanted to add to Hillarycare does not appear to be in Obamacare. However, the same federal Health Board that will be charged with the responsibility of doing the cost analysis on the merits of keeping the elderly alive versus denying them lifesaving procedures will also be responsible for preparing a cost analysis on the value of keeping terminally-ill AIDS victims alive on the public dime.(Does that mean the Very Rich will be kept alive with their private funds but, we Medicare, Obamacare Folks will be Euthanized at some point.?

It’s interesting to note that the gay and lesbian population actively campaigned for Clinton  just as the elderly—the primary target of the Obamacare Health Board—actively campaigned, and voted, for Barack Obama in 2008.

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Yet, try to convince the gay and lesbian community that, if Hillarycare hadn’t failed, most of them would be spending their final days in an isolated AIDS sanatorium somewhere in the Badlands.

large group we wont take it any moreAnd the blue-haired seniors in Florida and Arizona may find that their next flare-up of irritable bowel syndrome, or their next broken hip, might land them in a terminal care unit of their local hospital where those who linger while dying go to die, instead of sitting around bragging about their latest hospital adventure at the assisted living center.

This is the kind of health care that Barack Obama has worked to move heaven and earth to give America. One of the paragraphs states the professionals assume older patients are too old/frail for treatment, and as a result are discriminating against that particular age group. Discrimination has got nothing to do with it in my opinion. The reason they’re being denied treatment boils down to one thing – money.

Make no mistake about it. The Obama Health Board, or as it is legislatively known, the Federal Coordinating Council for Comparative Research, headed by death merchants the likes of Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, based on the vision of Dr. Robert Pearlman, the Chief of Ethics Evaluation for the Veteran’s Administration National Center for Ethics in Health Care, who was the visionary behind the notion that disabled veterans who do not want to be a burden to their families or to society, have the right to death with dignity through assisted suicide.

Pearlman authored his death protocol in 1997. For the remaining three years of the Clinton Administration, Pearlman‘s 52-page end-of-life planning document, “Your Life, Your Choices,” not only became the basis for the living wills used by disabled military people but, it also became the framework for the federal regulation that now requires hospitals and other medical care facilities to pressure patients—particularly elderly patients—to sign Living Wills (i.e., euthanasia provisions). Today, in violation of the Hippocratic Oath, doctors regularly euthanize patients deemed to be terminally-ill.

Among the list of terminal illnesses that can trigger the Living Will death-with-dignity provision is old-age.

If you’re old, sick or disabled — or have a friend or loved one who is — you should be very wary of Democratic healthcare plans. And, too, you should keep an eye on “the Orwellian thinking of the president. And health care advisor, Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, the brother of the former White House chief of staff.” This is, after all, one of the two advisors to President Obama dubbed deadly doctors” by the New York Post, a man also known as “Doctor Death,” who, as conservative blogger Gateway Pundit explained, “supports euthanasia … [and] believe[s] medical care should be reserved for non-disabled ‘participating’ members of society.”

It’s become a growing theme : ”Obamacare” will mean mandatory euthanasia for your grandmother in order to save money, and the person who created the ideological underpinnings for that policy is the brother of former White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel and Hillarycare.

Ezekiel Emanuel, who’s currently advising the administration on healthcare reform through a post at the White House Office of Management and Budget,

The elderly are being singled out for extermination because the Social Security system is bankrupt. While the bureaucrats blame the bankruptcy of Social Security on the fact that people now live too long,

the reality is that Social Security is bankrupt specifically because, for the last 77 years, elected politicians stole the Social Security Trust Fund (which was supposed to have been invested, by law, in high yield government bonds) and used your money to create the welfare society. That money is now long gone. In its place are IOUs the government cannot redeem. Today’s elderly are now expected to pay for that theft with their lives because there are too many people seeking repayment of the funds they deposited, in good faith

Among the list of terminal illnesses that Obamacare can trigger is the Living Will death-with-dignity provision is old-age.

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Our Betters In Washington Shall Simply Order Us To Live As They Want Us To Live

Hillary is the war on women says kathleen wiley “We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.”

The cesspool get’s deeper on a daily basis with the present crew residing in office

valerie jarretThe ones who helped us will be rewarded, the ones who opposed us will get what they deserve.”

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October 14, 2014 12:00 AM Local Elections with Lasting National Import
What’s at stake this November is the president’s vision for remaking America.

By Thomas Sowell

Thomas Sowell is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, Stanford University. His website is http://www.tsowell.com   thomas sowell

What is the overriding national issue that makes this year’s elections so crucial?

That issue is whether, despite all the lawless edicts of President Obama, threatening one-man rule, we can still salvage enough of the Constitution to remain a free, democratic nation.

Barack Obama will be on his way out in two years, but if he can appoint enough federal judges who share his contempt for the Constitution’s limits on federal government power in general and presidential powers in particular, then the United States of America can continue on the path to becoming another banana republic, even after Obama has left the White House.

President Obama understands how high the stakes are, which is why he is out fundraising all across the country — seemingly all the time — even though he has no more elections to face himself. Obama came to power saying that he was going to fundamentally change the United States of America — and he intends to do it, even after he is gone, by giving lifetime appointments as federal judges to people who share his view that this country’s institutions and values are fundamentally wrong, and need to be scrapped and replaced by his far-left vision.

If only Obama’s critics and opponents understood this momentous issue as clearly as he does.

The issue is whether “we the people,” as designated by the Constitution, continue free to live our own lives as we see fit and to determine what laws and policies we want to live under.

President Obama’s vision is very different. In his vision, our betters in Washington shall simply order us to live as they want us to live — telling us what medical insurance we can have, what doctors we can go to, what political groups shall be favored by the Internal Revenue Service, with more of the same coming in the years ahead, long after Obama has left the White House.

Critics who deplore President Obama’s foreign policies in general – and his weak response to the Islamic State threat in particular – as showing incompetence and who see his incessant fundraising as just a weird distraction fail to understand how different his priorities are from theirs.

Barack Obama understands clearly that his ability to fundamentally remake what he has long seen as a deeply defective and corrupt America in the image of his far-left vision depends crucially on having control of the Senate that has the power to confirm his appointments of federal judges with lifetime tenure. His fundraising is key to maintaining the Democrats’ Senate majority.

Foreign policy is subordinated to Obama’s overriding ideological vision. The president will not risk losing this year’s congressional elections by taking military actions that will alienate his political base. Token military actions can minimize the political losses from other voters.

That people will die while he stalls on military action is a price he is willing to pay. His ordering thousands of American troops into Ebola-infested Liberia shows the same ideologically driven callousness.

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The big question is whether those who wish to preserve a free America see the issue and the stakes as clearly as Barack Obama does — and see that this is the overriding national issue of our time, with our votes for senators not to be confused by local issues.

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